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In this 12th episode of The Wolf and the Wing, Shea and Siri travel to Rome and the seat of the universal church: the Catholic Church. While recognizing the beauty that comes out of this faith and the numerous teachers faithful to the truths of love and oneness, they also uncover the devastation left in the wake of this global organization over the past centuries.
Together they discover:
- The total historic number of deaths caused by the Church
- A partial number of children harmed by the Church
- How shame is used as a manipulative tactic
- The teachers who are faithful to Love within the Church
- Visiting St. Peter's Basilica in Rome
- Remote viewers visiting Siri in the astral
- Agents watching Siri and Shea in the 3D
- The Swiss Guard's longstanding connection to the papacy
- The dark clandestine organization using the Vatican
- The fight for power between secret organizations
Ultimately, Siri and Shea urge their listeners to recognize the intersection between spirituality and the physical 3D, with all of its glories and dangers, and to listen to their own inner guidance, not attempting to follow in their footsteps, but to follow their own path in alignment with their own missions and their own communities where light is needed.
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You're listening to The Wolf and the Wing with Siri Romero Seller and Shay Carey. I'm Siri.
SPEAKER_02And I'm Shay, and we're excited for you to join us as we travel the world together, uncover ancient secrets, prepare for galactic contact, and discover the truth of human potential. We're really excited about this episode today as we talk about our adventure to Rome. We kind of had like a little bit of a download overnight. And then Siri came to me and she was like, okay, we're leaving uh in two days and pack your shit. Actually, I you told me this, I think in a matter of hours. I had to like sprint to town to get some food for the dogs for the weekend. And then yeah, so Rome is a very spiritual, powerful place, and we're really excited to talk about this today. But as we we kind of were discussing this topic before we hopped on here today, we wanted to make sure that we prayed some protection over the journey, over the information, just because obviously we're talking about the Catholic Church, which is a very large conglomerate. And um, yeah, before we go into that, we just kind of want to mention like this is not about the Catholic faith itself. Um, this is just about what the structure of the Vatican and the Catholic Church have done and how their power over dynamics have really affected people uh across many time periods. Uh, we've kind of touched on this already in our previous episode where we went to talk about the Cathars in the beginning of this history. But yeah, this is some really big stuff, and we were directly affected by it on our on our trip. So we want to start by praying some protection over it, but also with a little bit of a disclaimer.
SPEAKER_01Yes. So many of our listeners, and I know you, Shay yourself, grew up Catholic, and some of us uh still practice in faiths that are adjacent to the Catholic Church or maybe straight up in the Catholic Church. And so, yes, I I think it's beautiful that you said that we are not anti-the Catholic faith. And there's many beautiful things about the Catholic faith that we would agree with. There are many incredible people we will bring up later who are currently working in the Catholic Church, who are doing beautiful work for Gaia, for human consciousness as a whole. And so this is not a baby out with the bathwater conversation, but it is a grave conversation. It is a conversation that spans thousands of years and brings a lot of gravity to the moment when we consider these topics we talk about regularly, as far as human subjugation is concerned and this fight for freedom that we are all in together.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And, you know, we have constantly talked about bringing the shadow to light, and that applies to everything in life. And so, you know, we want to bring awareness to this because if you haven't looked it up or done your research on the topic, um, I fully believe that as much as my upbringing was beautiful in a ton of ways, it was also really challenging and really defeating to constantly think that I'm going to hell for like normal human emotions. And the Catholic Church needs to take responsibility for the trauma that they've caused. Um and they have not done so. And there's many instances that not everyone is directly affected by, but um, where they've swept things under the rug, so to speak. Um especially, I mean, in in all facets of any patriarchal structure, they do this. And so the point of this is like, where do you think the people are that run the world? They're they're they're intertwined in these networks of systems of people that control religion and control belief systems and control outcomes. Yes. And so we're here to shine light on that today, and we do realize that that is a bit dangerous.
SPEAKER_01And so, um, you know, we don't take that lightly. No, we don't. And so if you're listening today, if you would like to put your hand over your heart and sit with us in a moment, take some deep breaths, go ahead and ground into the loving, nurturing consciousness of this planet we share, our mother. And we just ask for the angelic protection of our angelic friends who are aligned with light to be near this conversation, to surround it in impenetrable light. We ask for our dragon friends to also be near as we speak truth to power and shine this light. We ask for our extraterrestrial friends who guard us from other dimensions and sometimes here among us, we ask for their protection as well. As we are faithful to the missions of the galactic alliances, of the consciousness of light, the consciousness of love. Knowing that each step we take is highly protected and guarded by all of these realms of light.
SPEAKER_03Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01As we breathe into our bodies, pulling bubbles of light all around all around us. Thanking this light that we are contrived of, made of, that creates our reality that we experience.
SPEAKER_03Amen. Beautiful. Thank you, Siri. Thank you. Okay.
SPEAKER_02When we talk about systemic issues, because I know you're gonna touch on a lot of the history and the factual things on what you've read, because you are an avid reader and I am not. So as much as I love information, that's not the best way for me to absorb it. So correct. Um when you look at these numbers, it's clear that there's a systemic issue. Yes. And we think that we should talk about oppression. That and we're gonna touch on a few points that we feel are just important to shed light on because each topic could be its own episode. Yes. Like please, please do your own research. Um the the whole um dynamic of this patriarchal society is that the the information is blatantly in your face. It's just too intense for people to like want to read it and go down the rabbit hole and absorb it. And so they avoid it to act like it's not real, to act like, oh, life is just sunshine, sorry, sunshine and rainbows. And while it is also that, there's also some really effed up shit happening in the world. And sorry, just as you would say, Siri, we'd we'd if they don't ascend, we don't ascend. Right. Like it's not, it's not about the other here. Like it's all or nothing.
SPEAKER_01Yes. And it is about seeing ourselves in these other parts of ourselves, these systemic oppressors, we have to look at them as if they are facets of ourselves because they are facets of ourselves. And so this isn't about pointing a finger and saying, look what you've done, but look at what we have allowed, right? So when we look at these higher levels of oppressors that I've spoken spoken about publicly on my Substack, on my threads, social media accounts, meaning the draconian race, meaning the higher dimensional dark beings who have used humans, we also have at these lower levels the actual humans who have laid a participant role. And these people are the beings we're going to be talking about today. But it is not in a way that it's like you have done this to us, but wow, we have allowed this by being part of this religion, by being part of these human systems, the human race in general, by being born into this, we are complicit in this patriarchal power over damaging, oppressing, subjugating system. So when we go into some of these numbers, this is it's grave, but it is also something we can recover from. It is something that we can heal ourselves from. But the first step in healing, just as in the first step of manifestation, just as in the first step of all magic, is to take responsibility for where we are and to look at it, to observe the trauma, to hold it, to pull it out of the shadow realms, embrace it and receive it again, integrate it as part of the whole, part of ourselves, the healed part. And so when we look at some of these numbers we're gonna go into in a second, I'd like for us to keep that in mind.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I before you start going into the numbers of this first part, Siri, if it's okay with you, I want to give thanks to the warriors.
SPEAKER_03Um that really fought for this to not happen. Yeah. And really lost their lives over it.
SPEAKER_01Yes, so many. That's the numbers we're gonna be talking about, really. Um these numbers of lives lost at the altar of the universal church, also known as the Catholic Church, were people who simply had different ideas about how religion should be, how faith should be experienced, how societal culture should be experienced, whether or not women should have positions of leadership in politics or community or spirituality. These are the kinds of things that people were killed for, or whether or not everyone should be under this one umbrella of a one church. Sometimes it was certain nations who were fighting for their own right to exist outside of that umbrella structure. And so then you have like the French Huguenot Wars, you have all of these things, all of these different ways of splitting out from this church that we're fought for. Even if you look at the Crusades, this entire idea of we're gonna rescue you, we're gonna rescue the pagan, the heretic, the imbecile from these other thoughts, and we're gonna bring them under this Christian umbrella, the one cross, the one true way, this violent aggressor pulling everyone into its own way of thinking. That is why we have this number. That is why we have this number. So when you talk about the warriors, yeah, I am painting the picture that those are the beings we're gonna talk about now. That's the number. They are many.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_01Dr. David Plaisted from Stanford University wrote a research paper and published it in 2006. And he basically came to this conclusion that so many people have called the numbers of how many the Catholic Church is guilty of killing over the years, and there's not enough evidence behind it. So this paper was really insightful for me to read. And he uh calculates all of these numbers by actual wars and events that the Catholic Church was guilty of. And it it's it's really mind-blowing. I mean, there have been numbers that have been thrown around for so long, as he states, and then he breaks it down very clearly and uses all of these key sources to number this. And so we have two periods really. We have the first period of the Reconstruction time, um, when that was pretty much post-Reformation. And so this would have been after Martin Luther, and you have the early Reformation time period, right? So this would have been between 1518 and 1548. 15 million people were killed during this time. Then you have the 30 Years of War. This was 1618 to 1648, 18 million. Then you have the Bohemian persecutions, three million, the French Huguenot Wars, 4 million, Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, 4 million, Irish Rebellion and later killings, 1 million, other Protestant persecutions, 5 million, bringing the total from 1518 to the 1700s to 50 million people. 50 million warriors, 50 million people who dared to have independent thought.
SPEAKER_02And it's crazy because like some of these people were just like, okay, here's a village of light. Well, let's go attack it. And not just kill the women that are teaching, we'll kill the children too. And the men trying to protect their families. Yes. So, you know, it's just like we are not separate from that.
SPEAKER_01Right. The wipeout, as we have talked about with the Cathars, which we're going to go back to. So if we go back further from this early date of 1518, we go into pre-Reformation times, right? We have the Reconquesta of Spain, 3 to 20 million. We have the Hundred Years War, 10 million. We have the controversy wars, 2 million, the Albigensian Crusade, 1 to 2 million, the Waldezian persecutions, the Hussite Wars and suppression, millions. We're just saying if we calculated it, it's half a million to 1 million. Then we have the Cathar suppression from the 1100s to the 1300s, which was up to 4 million. So that brings us to a total pre-reformation and post-reformation of 68 million plus. Mm-hmm. And at this point, who knows now? Those are lower numbers. And this research paper really beautifully describes how this is what we can safely say. It it could be much more.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And if you just think about how much goes undocumented, like of course it's gonna be much more, but you know, this is already a large number to sit with. Right.
SPEAKER_01So many of these events that we're talking about right now, they they combined religious and political motives, right? But if we were to calculate war-related famine, disease, and displacement in the death tolls, that's where we get up toward those numbers that other historians have called that he references in this paper, of the numbers such as 100 million, 120 million, and 150 million. If you look at the bleed out of what war creates, just the crusades, for example, these young boys who were pulled off of farms and given armory and told to go fight in the holy battle for Jerusalem, who then died on those battlefields. But not only that, the farms at home that didn't have the men to help care for it fell into disarray. And then the disease, I mean, so we just look at this broader picture, it's horrific. And this was not a slight period of human history, it was a significant extended one, as you've said.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And I know that this is getting a little, a little deep, a little dark. Um, but you know, please bear with us here because we are exposing the shadow right now.
SPEAKER_01And shadow is shadow. Shadow is in essence not fun. It is not light, it is not rainbows, like you were saying. It's this is the part that we hide away from, that the Catholic Church itself hides away from, does not want to take responsibility of, doesn't want to even really look at or think about. And we need to. This part of our history collectively shaped the Western world for Schwar. And look at what the Western world is doing now. And as far as conquest is concerned, as far as extractionism is concerned, as far as nationalism is concerned, as far as church and state are concerned, you will do things my way or else. And not only will you do it my way, but you will do it my way with the arm and authority of government supporting. That is what we're seeing.
SPEAKER_02It is. And and it's this obviously doesn't just apply to the Catholic Church, but what we're trying to say here is that it's heavily involved. And we'll get to a little bit more of the the connection points of that. Um and I'm gonna trigger warn you right now. Um it's through talking about children.
SPEAKER_01Yes, so if you have a history of childhood abuse, just please be aware that we are going to be talking about um the basics surrounding the fallout, the onslaught post child abuse and pedophilia as a systemic issue.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I'm not really sure where you pulled this stat from. I just know that I that I kind of wrote wrote it down. But between 300,000 children.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay. So when we were doing the research for this about the numbers as far as children who have been sexually assaulted by members of the Catholic Church, meaning the clerical members, we found something interesting, and it's that there's basically no center of numbers for the world because each nation has done their own research on this related to prosecution. So in France alone, 330,000 children have been harmed by adults in the Catholic Church since the year 1950. 215,000 of them were done by the priesthood. If we go up to teachers, camp counselors, this kind of thing, we have the number of 330,000. And that's since 1950. That's in most of our grandparents' lifetime.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it just makes me well, and this brings me back to the point that people make all the freaking time when you talk about anything heavy like this, which is like, it's always been a thing. We've always had this, and I'm like, oh, so we just accept it.
SPEAKER_01No, no. And you know what's so interesting too is when I was looking at these individual nations. I mean, you have like Portugal, and Portugal has like 7,000, something under 7,000 since 1950, since the same time period. And then you had the United States, which has under 20,000 reported cases since 1950, which I just find Not correct. I find how can France have 330,000 and the US only has under 20,000? Like that's these numbers are off. And that was what some of these studies have said is like these are reported cases. So maybe in France the reporting was much more robust. In the United States, we have so many issues regarding reporting outside of the church when it comes to child abuse for so many reasons. And so I think that this number must be much higher. Regardless, one child one child is too many. Yeah. One child is enough for a bishop, a priest, a pope to say this was wrong. Why did this happen? 100%. But a number like this, Shay? Yeah. Systemic issue. Yes, exactly. A systemic issue with five million exclamation points, like something is seriously effing wrong.
SPEAKER_02And then you can jump to even today's time where the Epstein files come out and people are literally in some of the darkest periods of their life because even though they were heavily, heavily, heavily, heavily emphasised on the heavily redacted, it it literally proved that children were being funneled through the Catholic Church in the Vatican, through the Epstein files.
SPEAKER_01Yes, which then we get to this part, which is our our papacy, the papacy of the Vatican and how it is set up and how it's protecting itself and how it's invested in some of the darkest places and people in this world. And we look at Pope Francis, for example, who stood for all of the social justice issues and arguably was one of the boldest, if not the boldest, when it comes to some of these topics. And yet, per what you just said, was coerced by Jeffrey Epstein and Steve Bannon into allowing funds to be circulated through the Vatican Bank in blackmail of what Pope Francis did, which had to do with go ahead.
SPEAKER_02And he like had spent so many years, and the Catholic Church had spent so many years saying we will not support same-sex marriage, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But as soon as these people band together, Steve Bannon, Jeffrey Epstein, and these reporters that had the evidence of him, they just said that he was gay and not with women. And this was well known about him already. That if he didn't accept trafficking money for Jeffrey Epstein through the Vatican private banking system, that they would expose all of it in a documentary. So what is it? Exactly right. Yep.
SPEAKER_01He came out and supported it. That's exactly right. And they allowed the money to keep going. And that shows you also who is all in this. If they just let the money go through, then it all went away. Like a classic blackmail situation. So where is the money going? And whose money is it? Jeff Ribson is dead. Yeah. Where like so this is where we start going down the rabbit hole. So hold on to everybody's hats because it's it it's it's insane. This is where when we're talking about this on this episode today about the humans who have subjugated humankind, we're not talking about the draconians. We're not talking about these highly advanced beings. Some of them are draconians in skin suits, some of them are hybridized souls, some of them are actually shapeshifters. We know this, but I'm talking right now about the humans who have willingly partnered and willingly sold out the human race from children who are connected to source, using them as slaves, basically, and sacrifices, all the way up to the adult who goes to church and is shamed and judged for being a human. And so through the shame and the judgment, they pay their money, they say their penance, they support energetically this oppressive system, not knowing that that is all a machine to keep it going, to keep the very to keep the very power and chains over humankind that have been in existence since the beginning. And so effed up. And it makes me very angry. And Shay, you can tell me to calm down at any point because I can't go away. It just makes me so angry. And then you, Shay, a young girl, goes to Catholic school, goes to Catholic church, and is told that, you know, your body is basically sin on legs walking around, and something is effing wrong with you. Yeah. And so keep supporting the system so that you can get that guilt off of your conscience every freaking week. And wait, wait, wait, where is this coming from? I'm I'm the kid in the background in the back seat and the back of the pew, raising my hand and sometimes jumping on the roof of the basilica and saying, excuse me, P.S. I just have a question real quick. Who invented all this shame? Why the shame? Who said? Excuse me, who effing said? Oh, a saint in the first century? Okay, we just keep tracing back. Okay, who's who did the famous first saint say that from? Okay, back. Okay, so the bar that you can give me is 6,000 years ago interpreted through your straw of an interpretation. That's the best you've got. Human history has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years on this planet, scientifically, evidentially, archaeologically proven. And you want me to believe what you're saying from the past 6,000 years in your own very, very manipulative interpretation?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, and and you know, this is not talking about like, you know, as a child grow growing up in the Catholic faith. I'm thankful for the morals that I was taught. I'm thankful that I had a compass, that I like was taught the power of prayer and the power of manifestation and all of those things. But what really, really was hard for me as a child was the shame. Being shamed. Like you're not good enough if you do that.
SPEAKER_01And there's a reason they use shame, right? So shame sits on the lowest end of the vibrational scale, which makes it not sort of powerful, not powerful. It makes it, in fact, extremely powerful. If you look at love as being this highest vibration, right? We look at that as being the most powerful. Shame is all the way down here. It's love and shadow. It's the opposite, right? And so it's the absence of love. And so that makes it actually extremely powerful. So the dark is using that modality, that emotion, that vibration that sits in the bodies of all these people who have been enrolled in this faith from babyhood, yeah, to use them, to get them to keep coming back to church, to keep saying the prayers, to keep feeling guilty, in penance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, and and I am including the priesthood because they're they're subject to it as well. They are. We ask, where did these numbers come from? Where did these children come from? Where is this huge onslaught coming from, Shay? Why are there so many children abused? Why? Because of the shame.
SPEAKER_02It's from the shame. It is. It's and it's crazy because I even remember like having a conversation with my brother when we were kids, and he was like, I remember the first time that I went to confession, and I was like, I didn't really know what the heck to say. So I was like, I'm sorry for being mean to my sister, which he was never really mean to me. Like, we had a great relationship. Like, he was never really mean. He was like child. We had a sibling fight, like whatever, over something silly. We didn't even really have those. So it's like, um, my sister annoyed me, and I was I left the room, like, okay, go say four Hell Marys and an Our Father, and you're good.
SPEAKER_01There's so many problems with this. Like, you know, I wasn't raised Catholic, so I have the luxury of just sitting here and poking holes in the whole thing, as you know I love to do. But I'm like, who's doing the forgiving? A who's doing the forgiving? Is it the priest who is subjugated by the same shame and guilt? Is the priest suddenly God the mother or God the father? Who's giving the priestess the freaking authority to forgive their sins?
SPEAKER_03A B B Who decides what the sin is? No, and then three, C, C, what is sin?
SPEAKER_01This is why Yeshua said there is no sin, right? This brings us to the deeper teachings of the Christian faith that were raped and used for the Catholic Church, which Yeshua, this very one they claim to adore and love, and Mary, his mother, and Mary, his partner, all said and taught that there is no sin. There is the ego, there is the illusion of separation, there's all these other things, but there's no sin, meaning that there isn't a particular thing that is necessarily wrong. There isn't a particular thing. The only thing wrong is believing you are somehow separate from God. And the reason it's wrong is because it's untrue. It's false. It's not because you're gonna go to hell if you think that. It's because it's there is nothing separate from the one source energy, the one God consciousness. So when we talk about the truth and falsity, which you could you could say right and wrong, but I don't like those terms because there's nothing right and wrong. There's only truth and untruth, and the untruth is just unaware of itself. So when we speak in terms like this, the Catholic Church and the faith it represents is about as far from the truth as you can get. Because instead of teaching you that you are God and you have all the power within yourself to direct your life, to choose what you wish to believe, to how you want to experience, versus that. That versus you cannot choose for yourself. One man gets to be God for however long he lives. And then when he dies, another person gets you, and they get to decide for you whether or not you can marry the person you love and not go to hell. Like, what in the world? No. No, so that is why the Catholic Church is motivated intrinsically to survive, A, and B, continue this system of oppression and shame over other humans. And that is why I have a problem with it. I didn't have a problem with saints and stories and magic and love and praise and prayer and the inner walk. Like, yay, do that all day. You I don't care. That's beautiful, wonderful. I'm glad you found your path. But as soon as we take that and we say, if everybody else doesn't do this, you're going to hell. Um, we have a problem.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And, you know, it's it's heartbreaking growing up in it. And I, you know, as thankful as I am to very large portions of it and just all the beauty, the other side of it now is that, you know, I have elders in my life that are, you know, I'm scared of death because I don't want to go to hell. And I'm like, what? Right.
SPEAKER_01You are the most like beautiful, magnanimous, loving, angelic human, and you're terrified of death, which is it's the opposite of the truth. So it's not that it's wrong or that it's sinful to think these things.
SPEAKER_02It's just not true. And it starts, it starts from molding young children. So, you know, back to like why the children. Why, why is the children because they're pure. Because they're the most pure form. They're they're not damaged. That's why.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes. And at a higher level of all of the evil being done, the Dracos and beyond, into the higher dimensions, fallen angels, etc., they feed off of this pure source energy, which is why we have these later human civilizations, even those of my own, such as the Maya, for example, who began sacrificing children to appease their gods. It wasn't, you know, these beautiful extraterrestrials who were here from the early times who were trying to do the right thing. It was these later beings who knew that this sacrifice, the blood sacrifice, was the only thing. And I get go, I get crazy on this because then we could even go into the Judaic strip scriptures, which talk about, you know, Abraham being told to sacrifice his own son and then having to sacrifice an animal, and we go down the blood rabbit trail and we could be here all day talking about that. But, you know, it it comes down to what you're saying, Shay, the source consciousness that's existent in a pure form in these little children, just as it is in these precious little baby animals. And it's it's it turns my stomach. And this is where it gets really challenging to practice neutrality and the observer mind and like, oh wow, we're doing this to ourselves because we are doing this to ourselves. We are. And yet it is the only way to not combust internally. And at the same time, I think we can hold the nuance for all of the warriors who are internally combusting. Totally. Alan Richardson, who was on that podcast, who was like, What the fuck are we doing? Wake up. Like, more of those, please. More of those, please. Like, like less of the neutrality, be either hot or cold. I'll get you out of my mouth, essentially, was from the book of Revelations, right? Like, have a fucking opinion, say something when something is happening that's evil and wrong. And I think we as humans can hold that neutrality of okay, I am the one consciousness, I am the one who is both dark and light. There is no polarity to me. I am unified source consciousness. And at the same time, when evil is occurring, because we are holding this polarity of light as well, to bring that light to the shadows, to expose it, to be unafraid, to do the right thing. Yeah, and to stand up for all of that.
SPEAKER_02All of it. Yes. By teaching. Yeah. By just by teaching, by teaching your children, by being like aware, by not putting them in inherent danger. Obviously, nobody did this intentionally, like uh aside from the people that were the abusers. But it's like, of course, we we have to be aware. We have to. And it doesn't mean stop living your life. But dude, I like I do not care where you live and how cushy your life is. It's just you can't hear what the what's going on here and not like want to ball a fist up and punch something or scream. It's so true. Sucks because because of because because of the patriarchal system. Guess, you know, it's it sucks because parents are busy, shit happens, people need help. Where do you go? These systems are not in place to actually help people. Actually, there's a shortage. There's a shortage of help. This is why we need community. This is why we freaking need community.
SPEAKER_01And I'm only gonna just and do you know, do you know what communities did back in the day? Lumbug. What matristic communities did, there's all these different stories about what were what was done to men who did harmful behaviors. Men in particular, we're speaking of, but I know this can cross genders. But matristic villages in various societies have been known to do horrible things to a man who would do this, like tie him up. That's what I'm saying, without food and water. You can't go anywhere. Not much. Not often. No, it was not happening. In a matristic society where village reigns supreme and women are watching out for each other and are looking out for each other and are supported in a not top-down way, but a center outward way, everyone is cared for. The smallest of the tribe is looked after, the oldest of the tribe is looked after, the sickest of the tribe is looked after. This is the way. Yep. And that is why they have not wanted us to have that way. That is why these beings, these humans have fought for so long to remain at the top of this pinnacle power. And that is why they are fighting tooth and nail to not be kicked off of it and not have this entire rearrangement that's currently underway.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And like I hold a large space in my heart for all of this because it affects everyone and every single person on this planet. It affects all of us. And this has been happening and evolving for a very, very, very long time. And it's not, we're not being naive here. We understand that these things aren't going to be fixed overnight, but we are we are coming to a tipping point. We are coming to a point. And so because of this point, um, the awareness needs to to come. And we can't do that also by or without, I should say, we can't do that without acknowledging incredible, incredible, incredible teachers that have done their best to go out in their communities and fight for what's right for children, humans, animals, all of it, every living being.
SPEAKER_01And even even in the dark system of the Catholic Church. Yes. Which is amazing.
SPEAKER_02Which is really it's it's bigger than that, right? It's bigger than the Catholic Church. But we are talking about the Catholic Church because uh we are in Rome. So we just really, really want to touch on the people that modeled what it looked like to prioritize the least among us, the people that had the less, and to shelter and clothe them and see them not as other, but as part of the whole. And the first person that I want to bring attention to, um, and I would love to hear your point of view on him as well, because I know he was important to you as well. But it's so funny because I wrote one of my like term papers on this saint when I went through confirmation. And um, it's Saint Francis of Assisi.
SPEAKER_01Blessed man. Yes, I love him so much for so many reasons. One of the biggest reasons is that he put his money where his mouth is, he really walked the walk of, I believe, so much. And the least of these, that I'm gonna give up all my wealth and I'm going to live among them as part of them. I feel like this is the closest to Yeshua that we can find in these early saints. And I'm so grateful that he left this example for us. And in many ways, this is more in alignment with some of these early teachings than other saints. And then we have some of the more modern teachers and creeps who are walking this very hard walk. If we look at like Father Brian Massingill from Milwaukee, who is both black and gay, yeah, very overtly. And he's talking about this stuff. He's talking about coming out of shame and owning who he is. And he's doing it in a religion that is quite overtly homophobic. Yeah. And quite overtly, even with like what St. Francis said in you know previous times when he was like, okay, well, I can't like, I can't, you know, allow marriage to happen, but you know, maybe you're not quite going to hell. And then we have like, you know, Pope Leo now, who's gone back on some of those more liberal views. So in this current era, to be Father Brian is not easy. Plus the racism, which is also prevalent in the church.
SPEAKER_02Kudos to him, because like, yeah, he's fully aware of all of that. And he's like, and and I know I'm not that. And I know I'm not that, and I know what I am is enough. And so are you too.
SPEAKER_01Yes. And and to the audacity for him, for Father Brian to say, I know God loves me, and I know I belong on this path of spirituality, of faith, of the inner knowing while being gay and not apologizing for it. No, it's beautiful. It's freaking amazing. So, yes, to him. And then, of course, we have Father Richard Rohr, who is the Franciscan priest from New Mexico, and his books are falling up, just changed my life in every way. Highly recommend reading his works. They are beautiful. They are all about the inner path. They are all about understanding the seasons of life. He talks about how you can only understand true joy and ecstasy, really, when you go the other way, when you when everything falls away, it doesn't work out. He is a beautiful, beautiful soul. And he really does model Saint Francis, I feel like, to a T. And wow, thank thank the heavens, thank the goddess, thank the mother, thank the God. All of the source and one consciousness for these beautiful teachers, even in this world of darkness. So I'm glad that we brought them up.
SPEAKER_02Me too. And if any of our listeners, like if you have someone in your, you know, faith that's changed your life that you feel is in alignment with what we're talking about, like please share them in the comments. I think it's important to spread this message and to help these people that are really making it their life mission. I'm like, they're not, they're not doing this to be famous or to they're they're doing it because it's what they truly believe in their heart. And that's that's also why we're doing this. It's not because we like talking about this stuff. It's it's not fun. It's not. No. But we also can alchemize it because we've sat with it enough and cried about it enough to know that there is a path forward to believe in in the manifestation of prayer and the power of prayer and the power of belief. That's correct. So let's talk about our little trippy trip to Realm because this was fun.
SPEAKER_01I was going through a lot at that time. I just I remember, I mean, it wasn't that long ago, and my personal life was in a meltdown. I was definitely entering a season of quite dramatic death and rebirth. I seem to be in a like three-month cycle every three months. It's like another, okay, here we go, right on the track of the seasons we find ourselves in on earth. And so I was, yeah, I was like, okay, we're going to Rome and want to come? Yep. And you were more than willing, thankfully. Yes, I'm always willing.
SPEAKER_02It's just like, ah, what do I do with my dogs? Which we had really just gotten here. And so I hadn't really made any connections. I wasn't sure. Like, I just they're my baby, so safety, but always willing. And I never regret one of our spontaneous trips. So we just went for it. And we didn't get into Rome until really late in the evening, but it was perfect. Um, we needed sleep. It was good to just be in a nice cushy little shoebox of a room. But just being in Rome, like driving in the city, it's oh my god. Beautiful.
SPEAKER_01It's like walking into a piece of history, like time traveling, kind of. Yeah. That's how it feels to me. So to be in Rome.
SPEAKER_02So the first morning, we were like, okay, we gotta just get out and walk. And everything's fairly walkable from the point we were at.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we were in the old part of the city, we were within walking distance to pretty much everything. Yeah. Of the of the Vatican, the Holy See.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So we were like, okay, let's just go see if we can get into St. Peter's Basilica, because obviously that's like first. Um so we start walking, and I just want to like kind of touch on a little bit like the poachers. Like, I think around a lot of places there's tons of poachers, but like I felt it was aggressive. Like, yeah, it really it really was. Yeah. And like, I mean, I I had at one point I had like like a man ask for a bite of my gelato. Um yeah, that was weird. Weird. Uh at one point, like he literally went and got a spoon off of a table. And like I was like, why? Why? So strange. Um, and then another one that like came up to me and was like, Let me see your eyes. And I was always cooking. I was scared. All right. And then as we get closer, like you see, you know, the crowds of people and they were like, Do you have tickets? Do you have tickets? Do you have tickets? Do you have tickets? And I'm like, get away from me. Like, I don't need a damn ticket. Like, I'm just walking in the church. Like, geez. So anyway, we walked right in. Like we didn't even need a ticket. But do you know how many now probably fall for that crap? Oh, for sure. It's crazy. But anyway, before we went into the church, so we're sitting in security, and Siri looks at me and she's like, I just want to sit on the sit on the steps and pray. And I'm like, okay, girl, let's do it. Like, you just do your thing. There's tons of people I can see from afar. So we walk up, we get to the steps part, and it's still set up like to have ceremony celebrations. So they kind of have like bleachers basically blocking the steps. And so really, we just looked at each other, we were like, we don't know where you're gonna sit and pray. But I was like, what about that column? Like, I'll just like cheerleader style, like, I'll I'll just like help you step up on there. She was wearing this cute little blue and white striped dress. And I was like, Yeah, let's just do that. And it was so cute. You just sitting up there, like praying and um pulling light. And I don't know, it was just funny because I was sitting there at first, like off to the side, of course, and I just was watching everybody walk past you, like just looking at you, like, what is she doing? You know, you're just meditating peacefully, and they have no idea, obviously. It's just and then and then there's like a break in the people and I walk away. But it was just so funny to watch everybody just like just see you and then just stop. Um probably like, we don't see that every day. No, definitely not on the pillar itself. But it was just like people were definitely like putting their things on the pillars. So I'm like, if you put all of your crap on the on the pillars, since Siri can just sit on up there.
SPEAKER_01And they did. Well, it was beautiful. I went in and pulled light, and I was very aware of like attention around me, but when I'm pulling light, I I can be in a pillar of swords. So there's so much light surrounding me, and I'm just doing my thing, and I pulled in all the rays. I was like, you know what? There's so much darkness in this place, I could feel it like almost under my skin. It was a strange feeling. I was like, it needs this light. Let me just bring a little bit. And of course, I was anchoring to Earth when I was anchoring to Earth and pulling all the way through like the mantle of ours. Really, it goes so deep. I was really conscious of a lot of darkness underneath the church. That would have been underneath St. Peter's Square. There was, it was dense, like it was kind of felt like going through metal, going through metal and um like pitch black energy. And of course, I didn't stop to be like, okay, what's around here? What is down here? I was just, you know, pulling the light and where that aware with my consciousness of where the light was going. So that was interesting. But then I was like, well, um, I don't know how long was I in, maybe 15, 20 minutes.
SPEAKER_02I mean, honestly, it's so hard when I'm in those situations. Like, time really doesn't feel real. Um, I would say, like, all in all, from like being in to kind of like sealing, I would say 20, 25 minutes. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So it's always longer than I think. But I felt a tap on my shoulder. I knew my guides were with me and they were like, okay, it's time. And they didn't really explain why, but I just I listened to their guidance, I followed them. So I hopped off the pillar and we went into the church. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Which I remember when we walked right in the church, like you and I both looked at each other and we just had this like whoosh like wave of emotion. And we both were like tears wheeling up in our eyes. But it was like not just like it wasn't all bad. There was grief in there, but it was like love, like pure love. But also like when you look up in that basilica, it's like the human story is painted before your eyes.
SPEAKER_01Yes, from the first second, from the first second you walk in, like even underneath the doorway. Like I remember seeing the dragons. Remember the dragons over the doorway? Like, okay, here is the story of Gaia. Yes, 100%. Yep.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's just like like the all the wars and the fights and the like just right there and painted so intricately. Like it's just like, how can you not walk in there and see what has clearly happened as the human story, the story of the evolution of humanity? Yes. And not question, like it's not just like, oh, it's a church. It's like, no, look, look at these paintings. Like the hours that the days, uh-huh, the months that went into painting these things. Like, are you kidding?
SPEAKER_01And so many of these artists who worked on uh these sacred churches had privy information regarding the truth of the church and the history of humankind. And many of them, I mean, if you look at like some of the more famous, like Michelangelo, Divincy, like they knew they knew the truth. Many of them had relationships one-on-one with Knights Templars. They were hiding information in their paintings, in their sculptures, and their artwork, hoping that someone would come along and look deeper. Yeah. And not just pass it by. Which on a tangent, if I were to go down it, brings me to the thought of how much magic we pass on a day-to-day basis. We talk about magic. This has been a conversation that has been in my consciousness the last 24 hours, and with regards to things that I've come out publicly and said, and things in my history and things that we're all capable of. We talk about magic going into this season of the fall equinox and the shadow territory of the year. And magic is present in everything and everyone, and yet we are not noticing. And so when we don't notice it in the painting, in the sculpture, in the person opposite us, how then are we capable of noticing it within ourselves? It's so true. Or harnessing that magical current that's running through us at all times and using it for good, for power, for manifestation, for healing, for triumph. We can't. It all comes down to that noticing the moment that you're talking about when we walked into St. Peter's, we were like, Can you see? And yet so many people were looking at the same thing we were looking at and could not see. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And then you just see all of the saints, you know, which I have a level of feeling bad for because they everything was just like like some of these people, they did not set out to be a saint. They they just they just did what their hearts guided them to do and were later consecrated a saint. Yes. And so it just it hurts. Like it's not that they don't deserve to be honored because they do. I'm not taking that away from them. But what I'm saying is that they they didn't do that in the name of the Catholic Church. I'm gonna tell you that right now.
SPEAKER_01No, I want to bring up one in particular who just comes to mind. Joan of Arc. Yes. Freaking Joan of Arc, that blessed warrior of a woman, right? Who at the time, like we look back and we look at the story, it's been reframed. It's been reframed in a way that's palatable for the Catholic Christians, right? And then, oh, okay, you heard this warrior, blah, blah, blah. Joan of Arc was a Templar. She was a badass warrior fighting for the freedom of humankind, not just France. Yeah. And so we so we look at these, you know, reframes as some of these saints that were portrayed in the church and the places that we've been to, other cathedrals and stuff, and they many of them who were warriors of light have been reframed in in really sad ways. But the energetics don't lie. You still are looking at the stories and feeling it through your bones and blood.
SPEAKER_02And not to mention some of these statues that like I have such an issue with because they don't even look like the real person, but that's great. Um, but like let me just tell you, like a lot of them were not white. And right, um, yeah, it just it's it really is frustrating, like how it's how it's been shifted and to be aware of it and then to see it over and over and over again, that's a whole other thing. And so yeah, I just can't move forward without saying that. But not only did we experience a great amount of love and a great amount of hope and and joy, it also was just sad. It was. And then we wrapped around to the masculine side of the church, the right side. And immediately Siri stopped and she goes, Oh, I'm not going any further. And I was like, No, like we need to go through there. Like anywhere we walk, we're shining light. Anywhere we walk, we have to walk through there. Even if like we don't stop long, we've got to. And so glad you said that. Yeah. We like legit, I we both felt like we were gonna yak. Like I was gonna, I mean, I once we got out of there, it took me a while to like reintegrate because I was nauseous. And I know that you are just as sensitive, if not more, than me when it comes to to like being in a public place with a buttload of entities just ping-ponging off of your energy energetic vortex. Yes. But it's like a feeding ground for them. They're like, ooh, yay!
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And if you think about like the hub that they're living in, that's their home.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But it's also like it does coincide with just the karmic load that the masculine carries. And it's frustrating because I have a lot of love for them too. But it's also just like it's it's it's really awful. And it is, you know, it's a choice to be born into a male, a male body, you know, but it's like it's so easy to get lost in the darkness because of how much karmic load they carry. Because of the human history. Yes. And you know, we even see it in good men that we know and love. Yes. And I freaking hate it, but you know what, you know what? As women, it's our job to to really call them out and and call them back to themselves so that they can honor and not ignore. And so that's why we walked right freaking through it. Yes.
SPEAKER_01And yeah. Then we went back to the hotel and it was, you know, we had experiences with people wanting to look into our eyes and all of that, and it's kind of why we walk with sunglasses on a lot of the time. Um, I mean, I definitely do more than you, but yeah, um, in places like that, it's it's helpful. And then the next or that the next day we planned to go to the Vatican. So we bought tickets, a roundabout story. We bought tickets to go to the Vatican the next morning, and then that night we went to sleep. I had an experience where a remote viewer came to my astral field, and this is gonna take the conversation of the podcast into a different realm because but they actually connect. So bear with us, friends. So remote viewing is this technically, it's classified as a pseudoscience, but how could it be a pseudoscience when it was a real project within the CIA for uh during the Cold War period called Project Stargate? If you want to look this up, you can see the science behind it. It's all published online, so you can read it yourself. But there's actually tremendous science behind it. The only thing is it has to do with consciousness, and academia wants to pretend consciousness is not real. So as long as that's continuing, they will continue to allow humans to believe that while actually using using consciousness and using the pseudosciences, quote unquote, of psychics and psychic powers to retrieve information, which is what they've been doing all this time. And there are projects that are going on right now in the Black Ops where they hire people and sometimes enslave people to do this work for them. So that is real. If you're not familiar with remote viewing, it is basically achieving a state of consciousness, an awareness where you are able to zoom into another person's individuated field or another location on earth or somewhere else where you can see what is happening either in real time or in times past. So there's lots of different parts of remote viewing. It's a skill that everyone can learn how to do, but some people are more naturally wired for it. I have been remote viewing since I was a child and didn't, of course, know that that was what I was doing when I was doing it, but I would pick a place on the earth that I would go to when I would fall asleep, and then I would zoom into that place and I would view what was happening there. And this is something that I've used in my psychic practices. This is something I teach. So it is well known that this is real, though, is what I first want to say. And when I am dreaming, usually when I'm sleeping, I should say, I'm aware when I am remote viewing or I am being remote viewed when someone is in my field or I'm in someone else's field, and it's not just a dream. So we have dreams that happen at these lower realms of consciousness and the lower astral realm, where they're kind of like regardations from things that we've read, seen, consumed, mentally and stimulated by in some way is sitting in our consciousness. And so those are dreams. They can have meaning in them. Your guides could communicate lessons for you. There could be tie ins from other timelines. This can all happen in the dream realm. And then we go up into the higher astral realms where things are happening. In real time, if you could say, where there's no time and time is not linear. But if you could imagine that there's this perceived moment where other people can all meet together, similar to like the telepathy tapes, where there's the hill and everybody meets on the hill, right? So it's kind of like that, where there's this highest, higher astral realms where people connect. So I say this to explain when I am sleeping, this is one of the only ways that certain beings can connect with me. Because when I'm in my body and we are walking around Rome, we are super protected. We have my guides who are making little storm vortex vortices all around us. We have the extraterrestrial craft that is following me at all times and tracking my location, and then the other ones that are tracking me. So I am constantly followed. It's really hard to interact with me unless I personally invite it because I'm talking to you, for example. And then still I'm super protected. So you can't really infiltrate my field. But when I'm sleeping, I leave my body, just as we all do, connected by that golden thread that keeps us alive. So we're not fully leaving the body. And I extend up into these higher realms of consciousness, past the dream space, into the lower astral realm, into the higher astral realm. And from that place, and from that realm up in the lower to higher astral realm, that is where people can meet me, can call me in, can ask for help, can come to see me. And I'm not as protected except for what I call in in the moment to protect me. So I went to sleep and I found myself suddenly in a room that looked like almost a schoolroom, or um, like there were whiteboards, and there was a woman standing in front of me. I was sitting at like a desk and a woman stood in front of me at a whiteboard. She was writing stuff on a whiteboard, and she turned around and she had a whiteboard, a smaller whiteboard in her hand. And there were there was a list of names on the whiteboard. And she slid it across to me and used her pen to start going down the list. Like she started with number one, and there was a name on it. And this was like a name of a person in history. And then the second one was also a name of a person in history, a different person. And she went down, and there were probably about 10 different names. And then she got to the last name. And the last, and I realized while she was hitting, all she would do was touch the name and watch my reaction. And I wasn't fully aware that I was remote viewing or being remote viewed at this time, that we were connecting as an actual person. I didn't realize this until she touched the last name and it was my name, the name that I was known in history as. Not my actual name, not the name I was born and given, but the name that everybody else knows me as. And it was in that second that I realized I was being remote viewed. And she was watching my reaction, how I was gonna react. And I jerked myself back to my body. And in half a second, I pulled myself out because I knew what she was doing. And then I woke up and I told you. Yeah, which is what my guide said when I went to pray about it, right? They were like, Well, this is what happens when you pull light in front of 200 cameras that are linked to international security agencies. And I didn't understand. Like, I was like, oh yeah, well, yeah, okay. And then I was like, I've got to find out more information. So I went in. Yeah. This was interesting. It is I went in to find out where this person was. Like, where I was like, is this the US following me again? Because I've had experiences in the United States. So when I first woke up and my frequency was coming on, I had a remote fear come into my house, into my bedroom, and I could perceive them. And they were linked to the United States government. And I didn't have grids set up over my house at that time yet. I was just waking up. We were still too new to the whole thing. And then when the grids were over my house and my ET family had put it over, and now they move it with us wherever we go. But before that, I didn't have that. And so it came into my bedroom. After that, though, I have not had an issue. I was very curious though, who was this person? So I, and the person who had remote viewed me was Asian, had short black hair, and um was a woman, female. So I was like, I'm so curious. I'm just, you know, I'm curious. So I remote viewed her location and I found her in Switzerland. And I was like, huh, that's interesting. Why? Why Switzerland? I was I was very confused. And I was like, is this related to CERN? And there was a lot of stuff happening with CERN at the time. Yeah, there was. Um they were shutting down for that period. And I was like, okay, is this related to that? Like, what in the world? Why Switzerland? But I didn't get an answer and I didn't really seek one. I just knew that it had come from she was in Switzerland when she had done that. And so, and then we decided to go to our the Vatican, but I checked my email to get the tickets, and there was just this really generic email that said no explanation. You saw the email, Shay was just literally like, we've decided to refund your tickets. End of story. You're not going to the Vatican. And I was like, What?
SPEAKER_00And uh my guide said, sorry, you have to be careful when you pull a light in the front of St. Peter's Basilica in front of 200 cameras, international security agencies. You can't just do that and think that you're gonna be safe to just walk into the Vatican the next day.
SPEAKER_01That's not a thing, and that's not happening. So we were funding your tickets. Don't whine about it, be on your merry way, child, essentially.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Which I was bummed, but also I'm like, okay, we'll we'll be back.
SPEAKER_01Right. And uh we'll be careful not to do that thing before before we decide to go see you. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02Be a little bit more incognito before we have to do like major, major things. But we were really still pretty, pretty like not putting the pieces together with why this remote bureau was in Switzerland or Swiss at all, until we realized that obviously Swiss Guard in the Vatican, that all of these military guards are from Switzerland. So then we're like, why?
SPEAKER_01Right. So it was my mom, actually. Yeah. My my spiritual mom, who is my my actual mom. She was like, we were telling her what had happened, and she was like, Well, you know what's going on in Switzerland, right? You know, and we were like, What? And she said, Well, there's a Swiss guard, obviously. And we were like, Yeah. And she was like, Well, not only that, but the Vatican has their own like Swiss agencies who run their security for them from Switzerland. I was like, Oh, yeah, because it's legal. It's legal to do it. They have loopholes that basically criminals, anyone can can tap into response. Yes. And because it's Switzerland, they're not going to get prosecuted in any EU court. Um, so that made so much sense. And so then when we were preparing for this episode, we were doing some reading on this whole thing, and we realized that remote viewing was actually introduced to Germany. And there's a particular agency who is really in charge of all of these high-level remote viewing trainings, and it's called our IRVA, International Remote Viewing Association, and they have many countries that are underneath them where they train these people. And then private governments hire these really, really well-trained remote viewers to work on private government projects, just like the black ops in the US, uh, which really the black ops encompass every country. It's not just the US. So you have these high levels, and we were just able to read it and link them together. They're linked, you know, to military programs. Um, obviously, CIA is Stargate project. So they're all connected, right? And the Vatican, who uses Swiss security and intelligence, was of course connected to the IRVA in this way. And then also the Swiss Guard military was created in 1506, we know this, to protect the Pope. And, but it gets very interesting. This is where we go down an interesting rabbit hole that actually connects to what we've been talking about. And that's that in 1998, a commander of the Swiss Guard was murdered by another young guardsman. So another Swiss guard, but on the day that he was made commander, but he wasn't the only one murdered. It was also his wife, which was super interesting. And then the person who supposedly murdered them was committed suicide, was killed. But then after that, it gets really interesting. An anonymous book was published called Blood in the Vatican, I believe is what it's called. Blood and Lies in the Vatican. And it was published in Milan, and it was published anonymously by people who didn't want to be known, obviously. But these people who published it had intricate knowledge of the rooms in which the bodies were found, the weapons, photographs, they had like everything. So they had to have been somebody who was on the inside. Yeah. And what they basically said was this Swiss guard who was murdered was involved with the Opus Day. And now we open up this whole thing. The Opus Day, if you're not familiar with this term, is a Klandenstein organization that works within the Vatican. These people encompass 90 countries. There's members of the Opus Day from 90 countries. They operate on their own schedule, on their own agendas, and actually use the Vatican as their shell organization. This shadow government, if you want to call it government, it's like a shadow government of the Vatican, just like we have, you know, Trump claiming that there's a deep state and he's actually part of it, part of it. You have the Opus Day that actually controls the Vatican. And these people, when I tell you they run the world, I am not kidding. They run the world. If you would like to know more information about the Opus Day, you can read the Da Vinci Code. Dan Brown was not kidding when he talked about all of this. He talked about Freemasonry, he talked about the Opus Day, he talked about Yeshua and Mary Magdalene, the holy grail. He talked, he literally posted it clearly in plain sight in through that book. And people read it and went, Oh, that's really great science fiction and not science fiction, not fiction at all, actually straight up truth. So the opus day is like when we talk about some of the black magic that occurs to give the Vatican the power that it has, when we talk about the interpersonal relationships that are happening with extraterrestrials, when we talk about the guarding of precious secrets that are hid in the Vatican Library and underneath the Vatican and in Antarctica and all of these places with technology that could set humans free, but they're not letting people have it. We are talking about the Opus Day. The Opus Day has its own rival organization, and that is called the Freemasonists. And we will talk about that more in coming episodes as they have more to do with the coming episodes. But once again, it's not about the particular people within that organization. There are some beautiful Freemasonists. I just want to say really clearly there are some really beautiful Freemasonists who are committed to truth. But Freemasonry came out of these lineages of people and warriors who are preserving truth and was initially founded on beautiful ideals, on truth, enlightenment, the freedom of humankind. And then parasites became connected to that organization and infiltrated it to where now it is operating mostly in the polarity of darkness, which is why the Opus Day and the Freemasonists have a rivalry when it comes to who is going to dictate timelines and the directional advantage for power over humankind. So they are going head to head. And that's what this poor Swiss guard got caught in the middle of because he was running financials for Opus Day. And that is why he had to be killed. His wife had to be killed, and this other uh Swiss guard as well, who was very familiar with what happened. So when we tie this all into what's happening in Switzerland and the remote viewers and the way in which they are keeping track of everybody, this is this is why, this is why, this is how. Anything that is going to be a threat to the the way things have been going, the status quo is a problem for them, which is why there are actually so many stories, Shay, and documents about killings that have happened surrounding the Vatican that I won't even go into. But it's there is a lot. There's a lot. And this is separate, obviously, from the 68 million that we talked about earlier. This is ongoing today, and it has to do with keeping the lips silent of the people who know the truth and how intrinsically motivated they are to do this because of so many reasons. At the high level, we have the draconians who do not have another planet to go to. They are committed to keeping this planet and ruining it because that's what they do in these power over dynamics that are full of extractionism. That's what they did to their planet, that's what they've done to other planets. We know that. And then we have the humans who cannot exist in a matristic world because of what they have done, and they are unwilling to take responsibility for the atrocities they've committed. So they are also clinging tooth and nail, knowing that if they give that up, they give up their all their power. Do you think they want to do that? They do not. So instead, they are building bunkers underground. They are continuing to extract from the world. They are continuing to build wealth at the expense of everyone else. They're continuing to use these private banking systems. They are continuing to perform sacrifices in every way that you can possibly imagine. It is a dark rabbit hole. If you go down the Opus Day rabbit hole, I promise you, you will not be able to look at the Vatican the same way again.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Because and because we know that this, you know, fight between dark and light is very real. You know, these experiences that we talk about, you know, Siri and myself having just by going to these sites, like we're really not joking. And so the point of her even bringing up this organization is just like obviously remote viewers. Okay, they're watching. They saw her hybrid frequency. Then they followed. Then they knew where we were, you know, staying. And then, you know, we we can't get into the Vatican. They're like, okay, they're not coming to the Vatican. Obviously, they understand that like we were watching. So what did they do? They came to our hotel and sat on the rooftop and watched Siri just having some tea. Yep.
SPEAKER_01With dark sunglasses. It was a man and a woman. They looked like, I mean, agents in plain suits, um, like no decorations, no jewelry. Like, like we're just I've seen films, right? We've all seen films of like agents when they get in and out of cars and they're following people. These agents just sat directly opposite me, with like one of them had like a tee. They did not talk to each other at all. They were just they just stared with their dark sunglasses. And I was on the phone, doo-doo doo doo, talking about like, you know, the stuff we'd been experiencing or whatever. And I became aware because my my guides actually banged me. They grabbed me and they said, Look. And I was like, What? And I looked over because I can be unaware sometimes when I'm talking. And I was like, Oh, I didn't even see them walk up, Shay. They just decided to, I don't even know, like they just went here. Yeah, I don't know how long they had been there. And then of course I was like, Oh crap, I've said a bunch of stuff. What have I said? And I'm always doing that with you. Like, yeah, did I say too much? And my guides were like, Don't worry, we've been bubbling you this entire time. But it was definitely that feeling of like the energetics being pushed on my field, like boring into my field, which you and I have both experienced many times now.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Where you couldn't feel the energy trying to push into your mind space, to your body space to try to retrieve information about you. Or sometimes just scare you, just trying to throw you off your game to where you're in the vibration and frequency of fear, which ultimately does make you less protected. And it's about staying in that place of center, which I had to do in that moment. Oh I'm safe, I'm protected. I'm literally on a rooftop right now. I know my guides are watching me, my craft is right above me. No one can grab me. Still, still, it's something.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You're still a human being. It's still uncomfortable. We just realize that there is a certain level of danger um, you know, associated with even going and doing the things that we're doing. And so we're gonna be careful, obviously, about what we share with people. And um we also just want to be transparent too, as much as we can, just that this stuff is real. And um please, like, we encourage you to look up this information, to do your own research, go down your own rabbit holes and like use your body's wisdom. If you're overwhelmed, take a step back and integrate a little bit. You don't have to do this all in one day. Like take your time with it. But there's some really good books out there. Siri has already named a few. And yeah, we just we just want to recognize the warriors that have fought for the light.
SPEAKER_01And remind you that you are a warrior as well, even if you're not doing the stuff that Shay and I are doing, because very few people can do this. And her that, please do not try to do what we're doing. Like there this real danger that we face when we do this stuff. It's it's pretty crazy. And we are only doing it because we are called to and because we have the protection necessary to do it. But this is not everyone's path. It's not. And and I think this entire episode, Shay, when I was talking with you about preparing for it, it just really hit me. This is when it starts to intersect the spiritual things that we talk about and the physical reality that we live in. They begin to intersect, right? And it's not just meditations and spirituality and dreaming of the new world and manifestation, all of these kind of out there intangible ideas. Now it's oh wow, we're practicing this, and agents are showing up at our hotel. We're practicing this and we're having remote viewers pop into our astral space. We had this happen again. Yeah, as a matter of fact. Like this was what, two weeks ago? Yeah, a week ago, I think actually. A week ago. It wasn't that long ago. I was contacted again in the astral. And again, like to Shay's point, this doesn't happen all the time. I'm very busy in the astral, helping people, doing things in the astral quite often. But where people are contacting me like this, remote viewers, that doesn't happen very often. But it did happen again. And I was walking in the astral, and somebody came up to me with a telephone and handed me this phone and said, Michelle Obama wants to talk to you. Shay, you also know that I'm not talking to celebrities every other night. Like they're not coming to me. I I've had maybe five instances with different celebrities over the past since I've had my awakening. Not many. So this was unusual. I took the telephone and it sounded like Michelle Obama's voice on the phone. And she started to ask questions. And I was starting to answer her, thinking that okay, this is a sister, or this is a person who cares about human. Kind, blah, blah, blah, which must have been the thought behind the remote viewer. Like, if we present ourselves as ourselves, she's gonna know. So we're just gonna hand her a phone and pretend, like, filter Michelle Obama's voice on it so we can get the information that we want. And they did try. And I was starting to tell the things that I felt were safe. And then I realized what was happening and was able to pull myself out.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But yes, this is real. So we say this not to put you guys in fear because you guys aren't at risk for this stuff to happen. But also don't try to copy and paste. It's not about doing what she or I like, it's not about what we're doing. It's about what are you doing? You are located in the places that you're located in for such a time as this. You are moms and dads, you are leaders of your community, you are working in your businesses, you are employees at a business, you are artists, you are all these different types of people that we need as you are. You are God individuated into the exact perfect moment and personality and body that you're supposed to have to do your own mission that ultimately contributes to this overall awakening of human consciousness here on earth for this time. So please do whatever it is that you love that you're passionate about, because if it coincides with your passion and your love and your pleasure and your joy and your ultimate highest good, it is also coinciding with the overall awakening of Earth. These beings who are operating in these power over dynamics, they're not doing it out of love and joy and bliss and pleasure and overall harmony. They're doing it in, they're operating in the shadow, right? So it's only creating more dysregulation. It's only creating more darkness, more shame, more sorrow. But if you are operating in your center place of love, joy, bliss, peace, these things, you could be washing the dishes. You could be folding laundry, you could be picking up your kid from a soccer game, you could be talking with your neighbor while you're taking your dog for a walk and contributing to the overall consciousness of Gaia, her healing, her higher awakening, the evolution of humankind. You could be contributing to all of that just by being yourself in a single moment. No fear, only love. No fear, only love. So we say all of that to wrap this up, to let you know that you are safe and protected, just as Shay and I are safe and protected as we stay in alignment, doing what we are called to do in this moment and shining light in dark places.
SPEAKER_02It's an honor to be on this path with you. And it's an honor to be able to witness humankind as we shift forward. And you know, it's an honor to be here during this challenging time, and we are you, and we love you, and we're right there with you.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being here. All our love. Until next time. Bye.